CNN Debate: Trump and Biden Clash Over Immigration Records - Separating Fact from Politics

Atlanta, Georgia United States of America
Biden highlighted 40% drop in arrests for illegal immigration since suspending asylum executive order
Biden labeled Trump's statements as lies
Criticism of Biden's handling of immigration a major campaign issue
During CNN debate, Trump and Biden clashed over immigration records
Immigrants tend to lower crime rates compared to native-born citizens according to studies
Trump accused mental institutions and prisons in foreign countries of sending people to US
Trump claimed US had safest border under his presidency but no concrete evidence supports this claim
CNN Debate: Trump and Biden Clash Over Immigration Records - Separating Fact from Politics

During the CNN Presidential Debate on June 28, 2024, former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden clashed over their respective records on immigration. Trump accused mental institutions and prisons in foreign countries of emptying out to send people to the US, while Biden labeled these statements as lies.

Trump's claims about immigrants coming from mental institutions and prisons have been debunked by research. Most studies show that immigrants tend to lower crime rates because they commit crimes at a lower rate than native-born citizens. For instance, a Cato Institute paper found that immigrants lacking documentation in Texas had a lower conviction rate than natural-born citizens every year from 2013 to 2022.

Trump also argued that the U.S. had the safest border under his presidency but opened it up upon leaving office, leading to an influx of people from all over the world, including criminals and terrorists. However, there is no concrete evidence to support this claim.

Biden responded by highlighting a 40% drop in arrests for illegal immigration since issuing an executive order suspending asylum. He also criticized Trump for separating families at the border during his presidency and accused him of lying about the situation at the border.

The debate came amidst rising concerns over immigration, with only 3 in 10 Americans approving of Biden's handling of the issue. The topic has become a major campaign issue, particularly for Republicans who have criticized Biden's policies and accused him of being soft on immigration.

Despite the heated exchange between Trump and Biden, it is important to note that both sides have biases and agendas. It is crucial to consider multiple sources of information when forming an opinion on this complex issue.



Confidence

85%

Doubts
  • Is there concrete evidence to support Trump's claim of having the safest border under his presidency?

Sources

74%

  • Unique Points
    • During a debate held by CNN in Atlanta, President Biden lost his patience with former President Trump’s falsehoods on immigration.
    • Trump repeated falsehoods that the Biden administration purposefully opened the border and let in people from prisons, mental institutions, and terrorists.
    • Most research shows that immigrants tend to lower crime rates because they commit crimes at a lower rate than native-born citizens.
    • A Cato Institute paper found that immigrants lacking documentation in Texas had a lower conviction rate than natural-born citizens every year from 2013 to 2022.
  • Accuracy
    • Trump claimed to have had the 'safest border in history'
    • Trump accused Biden of allowing 'killers' and 'rapists' into the country
    • Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than those born in the US
  • Deception (100%)
    None Found At Time Of Publication
  • Fallacies (85%)
    The authors provide a clear example of inflammatory rhetoric from Trump. Additionally, there is an appeal to authority by citing the Cato Institute's paper on immigrants and crime rates. However, no formal logical fallacies are present in the article itself.
    • . . .every single one.”
    • Most research has shown the presence of immigrants tends to lower crime rates because immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than native-born citizens.
    • He disparaged Biden’s claim that Congress should act to give the executive greater powers and resources to control the border, arguing that “he didn’t need legislation, because I didn’t have legislation, I said close the border.
  • Bias (0%)
    The authors use derogatory language to describe Trump's statements, implying that they are false and harmful. They also provide factual evidence contradicting Trump's claims about immigrants and crime rates.
    • “Everything he says is a lie. Every single one.”
      • “He has killed so many people at our border by allowing all of these people to come in,”
        • Trump said the United States had become a “rat’s nest” and added that “we have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now, all terrorists, all over the world,”
        • Site Conflicts Of Interest (100%)
          None Found At Time Of Publication
        • Author Conflicts Of Interest (100%)
          None Found At Time Of Publication

        54%

        • Unique Points
          • Former President Trump criticized President Biden’s handling of the southern border crisis during the CNN Presidential Debate, stating that it had turned the US into a ‘rats nest’ and resulted in thousands of deaths.
          • The U.S. had the safest border under Trump, but he opened it up upon leaving office, leading to an influx of people from prisons, mental institutions, and terrorists.
        • Accuracy
          • Trump accused Biden of 'killing our people' and causing a crisis that has resulted in increased crime levels across the country.
          • Former President Trump called immigrants criminals and accused mental asylums of emptying in foreign countries for people to come to the US.
        • Deception (30%)
          The author makes several statements that are emotionally manipulative and sensational. He uses the phrase 'rats nest' to describe the border situation, implying that it is a chaotic and dangerous place. He also repeatedly states that 'they're killing our people,' implying that illegal immigrants are responsible for violent crimes in the US, which may not be accurate or representative of the situation as a whole. The author also selectively reports details about crimes committed by illegal immigrants to support his argument, without providing context or balance.
          • Immigrants wait to be processed by the U.S. Border Patrol after crossing the border from Mexico, with the U.S.-Mexico border barrier in the background, on August 6, 2022 in Yuma, Arizona.
          • Former President Donald Trump... said Biden had wrecked a secure border and turned the U.S. into a ‘rats nest.’
          • They’re killing our citizens at a level that we’ve never seen before.
          • They’re killing our people in New York and California and every state in the union because we don’t have borders anymore.
        • Fallacies (100%)
          None Found At Time Of Publication
        • Bias (5%)
          The author, Adam Shaw, repeatedly uses loaded language to describe the situation at the border under President Biden's administration. He refers to it as a 'rats nest', 'killing our people', and 'Biden migrant crime'. These terms are biased and sensationalized, implying that there is a significant problem with crime coming from illegal immigrants specifically under President Biden, when in fact the crisis at the border has been ongoing for years and is not unique to his administration.
          • And because of his ridiculous, insane and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they’re killing our citizens at a level that we’ve never seen.
            • The numbers of the amount of drugs and human trafficking in women coming across our border, the worst thing I’ve ever seen -- at numbers that nobody’s ever seen, under him.
              • They're killing our people in New York and California and every state in the union because we don’t have borders anymore. Every state is now a border.
                • What they're doing to the VA to our veterans is unbelievable and veterans are living in the street. And these people are living in luxury hotels.
                • Site Conflicts Of Interest (100%)
                  None Found At Time Of Publication
                • Author Conflicts Of Interest (100%)
                  None Found At Time Of Publication

                96%

                • Unique Points
                  • Former President Donald Trump complained about migrants being housed in 'luxury hotels' while veterans are on the street during CNN’s presidential debate
                  • President Joe Biden highlighted a 40% drop in arrests for illegal immigration since issuing an executive order suspending asylum
                • Accuracy
                  • Former President Trump complained about migrants being housed in 'luxury hotels' while veterans are on the street
                  • Trump leaned heavily on discussing migrant crime and claimed migrants are coming into the US from 'mental institutions' and 'insane asylums'
                  • Trump claimed to have had the 'safest border in history'
                • Deception (100%)
                  None Found At Time Of Publication
                • Fallacies (95%)
                  The author does not make any explicit fallacious statements in the article. However, there are a few potential issues: 1) Trump's claim about migrants coming from mental institutions and insane asylums is not supported by evidence and could be considered an appeal to fear or a hasty generalization if it is meant to imply that all immigrants are mentally ill. 2) Trump's claim about having the
                  • ] safest border in history[
                • Bias (100%)
                  None Found At Time Of Publication
                • Site Conflicts Of Interest (100%)
                  None Found At Time Of Publication
                • Author Conflicts Of Interest (0%)
                  None Found At Time Of Publication

                75%

                • Unique Points
                  • Former President Trump called immigrants criminals and accused mental asylums of emptying in foreign countries for people to come to the US.
                  • President Biden labeled Trump’s statements lies and ‘malarkey’ during the debate.
                • Accuracy
                  • Trump accused Biden of allowing 'killers' and 'rapists' into the country, which Biden denied.
                  • Border crossings are trending downward according to Biden, with arrests falling by 40% since his announcement and May figures showing the third lowest monthly arrests of his presidency.
                  • U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported the remains of 895 migrants were discovered in fiscal year 2022, three times as many as in 2018.
                • Deception (30%)
                  The author makes editorializing statements and uses emotional manipulation by describing immigrants as 'killers' and 'rapists'. He also engages in selective reporting by only mentioning the number of migrant remains discovered under Biden's administration without providing context or linking to peer-reviewed studies. The author also frames the border situation as chaotic and out of control, which is an exaggeration.
                  • The first presidential debate of 2024 featured former President Trump’s usual assertions on immigrants, calling them criminals and saying mental asylums were being emptied in foreign countries for people to come here.
                  • After record-high arrests at the end of last year, Border Patrol said preliminary data since Biden’s announcement showed arrests had fallen by 40%.
                  • These killers are coming into our country. They are raping and killing women. It’s a terrible thing.
                  • Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the U.S., studies show.
                • Fallacies (85%)
                  The author, Benjamin Oreskes, presents some inflammatory rhetoric from both President Trump and President Biden during a presidential debate. The author also reports on statements made by Trump that are not supported by data without explicitly pointing out the fallacy. However, no formal logical fallacies were identified in the article.
                  • ]Trump, echoing comments he makes at his rallies, accused Biden of supporting open borders.
                • Bias (80%)
                  The author uses loaded language to describe Trump's statements as 'lies' and 'malarkey', and Biden's responses as 'pointing out that'. This implies a bias towards Biden and against Trump. The author also states that there is 'no data to support what he [Trump] said', but does not provide any evidence for this claim. This could be seen as an attempt to discredit Trump without providing any substantive evidence.
                  • The author calls Trump's statements 'lies' and 'malarkey'
                    • The author states that there is 'no data to support what he [Trump] said' but does not provide any evidence for this claim
                    • Site Conflicts Of Interest (100%)
                      None Found At Time Of Publication
                    • Author Conflicts Of Interest (100%)
                      None Found At Time Of Publication